False Prophets and Antipope Gregory XVII
Richard Salbato 2-18-2011
I am what is called a Traditionalist because I
am not happy with the changes in the Church, especially the Liturgy. But now I
am ashamed of my title because of some Traditionalist because of their extreme views,
especially the Sedevacantists. Sedevacantists
believe that all the popes from Pope Pius XII are false popes. The word means empty
chair [of Peter]. The greatest tradition of the Church is the authority of the
Pope and his continuous authority for all times. I will be with you all days
until the consummation of the world. All Days, not most days or some days!
Their latest claim is that a false pope, Gregory XVII was the last true
pope. They try to use two prophesies by mystics that I believe in to support
their argument. But these two prophesies have not happened yet and will not
happen until after the great chastisement and the coming of the period of peace
promised at
Blessed Anna
Maria Taigi
"After
the three days of
darkness, St. Peter and
Brother
"Towards the end of the world, tyrants and hostile mobs will rob the Church and the clergy of all
their possessions and will afflict
and martyr them. Those who heap the most abuse upon them will be held in high
esteem. At that time, the Pope with his
cardinals will have to flee
The Truth about Gregory XVII
Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946 – March 22,
2005) was a self-proclaimed successor of Pope Paul VI, and was recognised as Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the
Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in
1978. His claim was not taken seriously by mainstream Roman
Catholicism, the vast majority of whom were
unaware of his existence.
Clemente Domínguez y Gómez, who was born
in Seville, Spain, became closely associated
with the Palmar de Troya
movement, which had its origins in an alleged apparition
of the Blessed Virgin Mary on March 30, 1968 in El Palmar
de Troya, a little village near Utrera
in the Province of Seville.
He claimed to have experienced visions of the Virgin Mary from September 30,
1969. He claimed that the Virgin in her messages condemned heresy and what was called progressivism, namely the
reform of the Catholic Church underway as a result of Vatican II.
His followers claimed he possessed the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus after crucifixion, on his
hands. However, the Catholic Church cast doubts on the legitimacy of the
alleged visions and apparitions.
Clemente Domínguez' claim to be the Pope of the Catholic Church
remains unaccepted by Roman Catholics, who accepted Pope John Paul I
(1978) and Pope John
Paul II (1978–2005) as the true successors of Pope Paul VI. Pope Gregory
XVII is generally regarded as an antipope.
In December
1975, Clemente Domínguez founded his own religious
order, The Carmelites
of the Holy Face, allegedly upon instructions from the Blessed Virgin Mary in an apparition.
Domínguez, who assumed the name Fr. Ferdinand, was
ordained bishop by Roman
Catholic Archbishop, Ngô Ðình Thuc Pierre Martin.
Archbishop Thuc was subsequently excommunicated
for his ordinations, which were deemed valid but illicit.
(Although Archbishop Thuc had the power to ordain he
did not have the authority to do so from Pope Paul VI, which is a
requirement for licit episcopal holy orders in Roman
Catholicism.) The ordinations and the validity of Domínguez'
"mission" were disputed by the Spanish Roman Catholic hierarchy.
In May 1976, Domínguez was blinded in a car
accident. He claimed further visions, including visions from Jesus, who he claimed told him:
“You shall be the Peter to come, the Pope who
will consolidate the Faith and the Church in her integrity, who shall battle
against heresy with great power, for legions of Angels shall assist you... me
Great Pope Gregory, Glory of the Olives...1”
Consider that he died and this prophesy
did not happen.
He also claimed
that Christ had named him His sub-Vicar, with the automatic right of succession
to the papacy after Pope
Paul VI. On August 6, 1978, Pope Paul died and Domínguez
claimed the papacy, proclaiming himself Pope Gregory XVII.
Domínguez claimed that he was visited by Christ, along with St. Peter
and St.
Paul, who told him The reign of the Glory of the
Olives1 has begun... A great day today, in which you
are vested with the Office of Pope, on this feast of the Transfiguration on Mount Thabor,—Feastday of the Holy
Face, of the Order of which you are the Founder and Father General. The great
Pontificate of the Glory of the Olives begins: the Pope
foretold by many mystics and in many prophecies; the Pope who unites in his
veins the blood of
He died and this
prophesy did not happen.
On August 15,
1978, he was crowned Pope by four of his newly created College of Cardinals
in a coronation held in Seville
in Spain. During his papacy,
he purported to canonize Generalissimo Francisco Franco and Christopher Columbus
as saints.
According to his supporters, Pope Gregory XVII was destined to be the last
Pope, and would be crucified and die in Jerusalem.
He died and this
prophesy did not happen.
In the 1990s,
Gregory XVII was accused of sexual impropriety with several of his priests and nuns. In 1997 he admitted
to it and begged forgiveness.
Can this be God’s choice of pope?
He died on
March 22, 2005 in El Palmar de Troya, and was
succeeded by Manuel Corral,
who took the name Pope Peter II. Incidentally, the papacy of
Gregory XVII closely overlapped that of Pope John Paul II. He
died, aged only 58, a mere 11 days prior to the death of his "rival"
as Pope.
·
Jean Grégoire de La Trinité, alias Jean-Gaston Tremblay,
from Canada also proclaimed
himself Pope Gregory XVII back in 1968; however, it must be noted that
Tremblay usually styles himself Pope
·
Some right-wing Roman Catholics also claimed Giuseppe Siri
(May 20, 1906 – May 2, 1989) had been elected as Pope Pius XII's successor in 1958 but that his election was in effect
vetoed under Communist
threat that Catholics in Communist countries would be persecuted if Siri, who allegedly had announced that he wished to be
known as Pope Gregory XVII, was accepted as Pope. It was further alleged
that Siri was again 'elected' in the 1963 conclave,
only again to be vetoed in favour of Giovanni Montini who became Pope Paul VI.
·
No convincing evidence has ever been produced to support this claim and
Siri unambiguously accepted Popes John
XXIII, Paul VI, John
Paul I, and John Paul II in each of whose elections he took
part, and died in full
communion with Rome. Some say that Cardinal Siri
repeatedly and categorically denied these claims.[citation needed]
The Roman
Catholic Church holds that the local Church of Rome cannot altogether lose the
faith. [1]
The Church therefore sees the Palmarian claim that
the See of St. Peter has been transferred from the
The Church
distinguishes between public revelation and private revelation. Public
revelation includes all the revelation in the Bible, as well as the oral
tradition transmitted by Jesus
and the Apostles. The sum of public revelation is known as
the deposit of faith, and nothing can be added to or subtracted from the
deposit of faith.
Private
revelations are those that have come to individuals or groups of people, but
that "do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete
Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain
period of history" (Catechism of the
Catholic Church, 67).
The object of
the faith of Catholics is the deposit of faith, but Domínguez's
claim to the papacy is based on something that does not belong to the deposit
of faith. Moreover, Domínguez based his claim on a
private revelation that contradicted the above-mentioned doctrine of the
indefectibility of the local Church of Rome. The Catholic Church's view of such
an alleged private revelation is expressed in the same section of the Catechism
of the Catholic Church as follows:
"Christian faith cannot accept 'revelations'
that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the
fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in
certain recent sects which base themselves on such 'revelations'."
I
ask Catholics to stop this stupidity and support the Holy Father because you
are only Catholic if you are in communion with him.
Rick Salbato